Whichever of those you go for, put one trait on magical lineage or wayang spellhunter on the spell you're focusing on. It still requires 5th level spell slots which are available at 10th level. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Very clear. The Magus in the game I am running is the only arcane caster and he regularly uses other spells like Fireball, Web and Black Tentacles in combat. Metamagic Master: Choose: A spell of 3rd level or below. Close Range also works with things like Ray of Enfeeblement. e. Your plan to use Frostbite is simply replacing shocking grasp as your one trick. As for traits, I’m okay with sacrificing Wayang Spell Hunter for sure (flavour doesn’t fit her anyway) and maaaaybe Seeker. For your traits you can take magical lineage and wayang spell hunter. Greater spell focus is kinda weak for your limited feats. Traits/Drawback: Fate's Favored, Magical Knack, Wayang Spellhunter: Ill Omen / Power-Hungry. Wayang Spellhunter (Shocking Grasp) Magical Knack (Magus) Feats L1 Spell focus (evocation) L3 Spell Specialization, +2 caster level on one spell L5 Intensified Spell (Shocking Grasp) Dervish Dance +5 Hit, +5 Damage Arcane Pool +1 Hit, +1 Damage 10 Rds Arcane Accuracy +4 HitA Kitsune with 6 levels of Fey Sorcerer and Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage can throw +4DC Persistent Hideous Laughter. Being multiclass spellcaster, you probably want Magical Knack. at first level you grab spell focus: evocstion and spell specialization: burning hands. For spells, pick a ranged touch spell (I like snowball) with magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits for free metamagic, and go to town. A crossblooded white draconic / orc sorcerer with blood havoc as his bloodline feat, spell focus (evocation), wayang spellhunter (ray of frost), magical lineage (ray of frost), flagbearer, point blank shot, and liquid ice for a power component can spam empowered ray of frost for (1d3+6)x1. I didn't know about Wayang Spell hunter. I wanted to be an Arcane Trickster for pure flavor reasons, but the most important reasons were Ranged Legerdemain (Char lvl5 - lvl1AT) and Sneak Attacking with Spells. For bonus points theres a divine trait called Legendary Beauty if her characters looks are important to her. Size: Wayangs are Small creatures and thus gain a +1 size bonus to their AC, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, a –1 penalty on their CMB and to CMD, and a +4 size bonus on Stealth checks. The d20pfsrd had it listed as Metamagic Master because they were asked to remove anything specific to the Golarion setting from the site, so they renamed Wayang Spellhunter to Metamagic Master. So if you want to switch around Lineage/Wayang later in the game, you can do so with a bit of coin. El secreto para esto es el primer matar a os en Espina (por ejemplo, tres), luego empezar a cerca de la actividad de trata de personas. That's a potent effect at any level of PFS. Channel power: Basically an extra, second empower. Many argue that casting wish three times a day is not "an appropriate special ability for a creature of that HD" for a simulacrum. The ability to freely apply intensify spell or rime spell to it can be either a solid damage booster in the mid levels or a decent debuff. In dim light, you resemble little more than a shadow. Obviously this is probably cheese, seeing as Spell Perfection is arguably the most. Heighten Spell is really the only metamagic feat that makes using a higher-level spell slot an advantage instead of a disadvantage. Aqueous Orb won't be the go-to solution. If you used Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter, your Maximized Shocking Grasps would take up a 2nd level spell slot. Especially potent with VMC order of the stars cavalier, so that you have 1. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . Buy the wand and just hand it to a caster. Then take something like Spell Focus: Evocation and maybe Toughness. I'd say drop either Slumber or Evil Eye. Size: Wayangs are Small creatures and gain a +1 size bonus to AC, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, a –1 penalty on combat maneuver checks and to CMD, and a +4 size bonus on Stealth checks. If something has fire resistance, switch elements. The first affects metamagic level gain on a single spell, the second drops the spell level, and so would stack normally as different types. Maybe a bit too good that makes me wonder why not focus on conjuration instead. Wayang Spellhunter (lower metamagic cost 1 level) Magic Items: Flawed Orange Prism (+ 1 caster level) Otherworldly Kimono (+4 caster level) Prayer Beads - Karma (+4 caster level, needs UMD skill check to use) Why Gifted Adept over Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage? They are good too. Pearls of Power don't consider traits technically but in context to your question is yes. Additional traits to get magical lineage is great, try to get wayang spellhunter too. WarrenCraftlocke. You need Intensify Spell unless you want to be capped at 5d6, that's mandatory on SG Magus. Wayang Spellhunter (lower metamagic cost 1 level) Magic Items: Flawed Orange Prism (+ 1 caster level) Otherworldly Kimono (+4 caster level) Prayer Beads - Karma (+4 caster level, needs UMD skill check to use)Why Gifted Adept over Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage? They are good too. For traits I would suggest magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for fireball, and then possibly reactionary due to how important going first can be at higher power levels. Arcana: Accurate Strike or Arcane Accuracy . Whichever of those you go for, put one trait on magical lineage or wayang spellhunter on the spell you're focusing on. As for a spell cartridge build, if your GM does allow a minimum 1d4 base damage, then the feat progression. We trade our 7th level bloodline feat for blood havoc. About the P. Wayangs with a Charisma score of 11 or higher also gain the following spell-like abilities: 1/day — ghost sound, pass without trace, and ventriloquism. After that point you have some feat options, with rapid shot, intensify spell/rime spell (if you took wayang spellhunter), and combat stamina (if your GM allows it) all being worth considering. A Persistent Hideous Laughter is a level 3 spell that will make tough targets cry a lot of the time. Celestial armour (custom made/improved to a +5 enhancement bonus if possible), +5 ring of protection, amulet of natural armour and cloak of resistance. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Wayang Spellhunter a nice lvl 1 spell, like Ear Piercing Scream or whatever, and you can Toxic it still at level 1, and Quicken Toxic it as a level 5. MonocleRogue mentioned both of those (Wayang Spellhunter = Metamagic Master). Wayang Spellhunter = -1 If they stack it's 3+5-1-1=3, so it ends up up as a level 3 spell. Heck if you wanna really go the Min max route you can take Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage both for that spell to reduce the cost of metamagic on it by 2. You have to leave room for a magic trait and a regional trait though. Call Lightning has an annoying 1 round cast time. Is this possible of is there something I'm missing. What's particularly fun would be applying both of them to Fireball, using Admixture to change energy types on the fly, and attaching Dazing Spell. Very clear. Wayang spellhunter still does that. Around level 8 this is what combat would look like if you are trying to make a fool out of the BBEG: Round 1: Drink mutagen-ale and cast Haste (via spell combat). Feats as you level: Improved Critical Critical Focus Empower Spell Quicken Spell Maximize SpellDouble edit: kept typing cone of flame, meant burning hands. No, Wayang Spellhunter is bound by the same FAQ. In regards to the traits, you can indeed only have one trait per category by default (though it's worth noting that while magical lineage is indeed a magic trait, metamagic master (which is correctly named wayang spellhunter) is a regional trait and is thus fine to take at the same time and does indeed stack if taken on the same spell), though there are a set of. Appearance. Also Quicken. Spell Perfection can significantly boost a single spell (that the player is likely. Also it doesn't target reflex, it's a touch attack; similar creatures. A. About the P. 25 damage per d6. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. The closest I know is with both magical lineage trait, Wayang spellhunter trait, both for fireball, quicken spell feat. Sign In; Cart . Traits: Wayang Spellhunter (burning arc), Magical lineage (enervation) Skills: Knowledge (arcana, dungeoneering, local, nature, planes, religion) +8, Spellcraft +8 Metamagic pool: 4 Cantrips: detect magic, disrupt undead, acid splash Level 1 spells prepared: Color spray, Summon minor monster Battle 1A: a random CR 3 foe: pteranodon I currently have the Wayang Spellhunter (Burning Arc) trait and am taking Spell Perfection at 15. It's not like Magical Lineage is suddenly weak with that FAQ. m. Although, I really like the thought of Dazing Spell, Extra Traits (Magical Lineage(Flaming Sphere), Wayang Spellhunter (Flaming Sphere)). Select a spell of 3rd level or lower. With Crossblooded, even my strong save is a weak save. Also, for your wizard class you probably want evoker (admixture) so that you can swap your fire spells into other elemental damage for all the monsters that have fire resistance. Just take Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage, prepare Intensified Empowered Shocking. It took two deadly difficulty encounters at once to take him down (technically he was only fighting one of them by himself, and won. Metamagic Master Your ability to alter your spell of choice is greater than expected. ) The other traits I chose to. I know that there is also Spell Perfection, which would definitely help, though that is not a low-level feat. If you take the Wayang Spellhunter (aka Metamagic Master) trait, it will let you use the Empower Spell metamagic at a cost of only one level increase in Spell slot. I wonder weather I should just use Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter on Frostbite/Frigid touch and get rid of the intensified shocking grasp (focus on debuff and control). Magical lineage and wayang spellhunter both apply to a single spell. Requirement (s) Minata. Of course, there's always the classic Wayang Spellhunter + Magical Lineage for the Arcane Mark cantrip. Traits: Birth Mark, Havock of the Society, Wayang Spellhunter (stonecall), Magical Lineage (stone call) Feats: 1st Extra Traits, Spell Focus Conjuration. Rocky Williams 530 :Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter(Metamagic Master on d20) to reduce metamagic costs by 2. Then you need Empower and Maximize. That being said, they are still very good traits regardless, because metamagic is very strong, and. There are several ways to do this. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell?In addition, he could Heighten for free and using Wayang and Spellhunter, add Rhime and Intensfy Spell for free as well, while casting out of a 3rd level slot. 1B. A Little About. " and Magical Lineage says:"Benefit: Pick one spell when you choose this trait. For race human would be a decent choice just because of the extra feat. Sign In; Cart . Asking specifically for those using the CotW mod - given the spells and feats that work with spells (Wayang Spellhunter, for example) - what do you guys think would be the best spell to use with Spell Perfection, as an Eldritch Scion? Another option would be to consider going for the draconic bloodline rather than elemental (lower spell selection ,though you could go for wayang spellhunter+elemental spell to get cold fireballs again, and the cold spells you'd have would hit harder) which gets you some natural armor to help defenses and more importantly opens up the dragon. Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage is only a feat (Extra Traits) away, so by level 8 on a Sorcerer with Widen and Magic Trick(both), it would be 4 mini-fireballs at 5d6 each as a 4th level spell. *Bloodrage: Undead* / *Fast Movement* / Noble Scion: of War 2O. Benefit: When you use the chosen spell with a metamagic. And as Rhorik said, tusked not better than a feat because there is a feat that does the same. Wayang Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +2) 1/day — ghost sound (DC 11), pass without trace, ventriloquism (DC 12) Arcane School Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +4) 6/day — blinding ray. A Magus with unlimited Merciful Shocking Grasps is a little scary. Looks like the only way is to talk to my player. This has always been the case, which is why the suggestion for a spellslinger is usually Wizard 1/ Sorcerer X, because your wizard progression is so heavily nerfed by the archetype, and it doesn't affect your sorcerer spells at all. With Creative Destruction, that's 55. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. Traits: Wayang spellhunter (Snowball), birthmark (for the low Will saves) Arcane Bonded: Masterwork Composite Longbow Str adjusted +1 (1) Spells Memorized: 0: Acid splash (my go to for ranged spellstrike), detect. Looks like the only way is to talk to my player. This allows you to spontaneously cast 1 spell (and you pick Magic Missile) and apply metamagics to it without increasing the cast time by sacrificing a. I suggest Wizard, but you actually don't memorize Magic Missile after you take Preferred Spell. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Slow Speed: Wayangs have a base speed of 20 feet. This makes life worrisome for a sorcerer in general, but even moreso for a trapper. Wayang spellhunter and magical lineage as traits, elf (for the racial bonus against spell resistance) orc bloodline sorcerer with blood havoc for +2 damage/die, and blood piercing bloodline mutations, maximise, empower, and quicken metamagics, spell focus evocation, spell perfection, spell penetration, greater spell penetration, vancian tattoo. basically you can cast a. You could pick up Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter with the Additional Traits feat and retrain the feat whenever you want another spell to benefit from those two traits. Then have spell perfection to quicken it, for a total of 1d4*1. due to OGL issues, options limited to a certain region or deity don't list the limitation. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one. Also consider taking the orc and/or draconic bloodline (or the solar bloodline) if you're a sorcerer. As I said, I am committed to half orc. The party sorcerer laid a wall of fire across the line. Wayang Spellhunter) count as numerical bonuses "doubled" by the Spell Perfection feat. Additional Traits is a really good feat if you plan it right, letting you pick up Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) at 5th level when you get Fireball while you use your bonus feat to pick up Sickening Spell or Empower Spell. Cast Defensively in Pathfinder is a joke, in this instance SG = 1st level spell (-2 trait reduction from Magical Lineage + Wayang Spellhunter) = DC 17 Cast Defensively Check. Various stuff from this page. And you can stack them to drop it even further. It's Wayang Spellhunter all over again and I thought the goal of PF2 was to eliminate fishing for such options. Either way, the, somewhat cheesy, traits to choose would be the classic Magical Lineage and Metamagic Master (actually Wayang Spellhunter), both probably on Fireball. " and. Wayang Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +2) 1/day — ghost sound (DC 11), pass without trace, ventriloquism (DC 12) Arcane School Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st;. A quickened cantrip can be interpreted as a 4th-level spell (Wayang Spellhunter is capped to 3rd) and it says 'with a metamagic feat', singular. But I have been wondering for some time and just now remembered. This increases in uses by one every 4 levels after this, so 2/day at level 7. Languages: Wayangs Metamagic Master. Author. There's thousands of feats in PF1 and at least a hundred feats that a shaman might take. Vampirc touch: Level 3 Intesified Metamagic: +1 level (level 4) Wayang spellhunter (with vampiric touch): -1 level (level 3) The least beneficial is level 3 across the board for this scenario. When you apply metamagic feats to this spell that add at least 1 level to the spell, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell's final adjusted level. But these are both quite fragile arguments. Wayang Spellhunter - Color Spray Magical Lineage - Color Spray which seem to say the same thing, but their wording causes it to effect different parts of the spell, and it allows you to actually reduce the metamagic cost by 2 levels on a single spell. I posted this in the r/Pathfinder sub, but didn't hear anything back so I'm posting it here. pathunwinder •. You use Intensified spell to keep this combination online up to 10d6 damage, and thanks to Magical. Beebs Mar 9, 2012, 05:18 pm This combo has been popping up more and more in optimization threads in the Advice forum. 5=8. That, plus the Wayang Spellhunter trait, and I can cast Haste as a level 3 spell, as a swift action (Quicken Spell), and have a range of 60 ft. Select a spell of 3rd level or below. Combine it with dazing spell and its only weakness, unable to affect creatures larger than large, is rendered unimportant. This character is a Tian half-elf descended from the ruling family of Xa Hoi. You still get the arcane bond from the bloodline. Spell Perfection also lets you do this, though it takes a while to come online. Oddly, the Remove Fear spell isn't a good option for a Psychic, since it's got an Emotion component. En el momento de salir de la cul-de-sac, de tu banda/estrella de nivel de amenaza que se Morningstar se generan. Transmuter- +1 CL on all transmutations and extends one. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . ) Religion: Affinity For The Elements: Fire (Spells cast with the Fire descriptor are cast at +1 DC)Wayang spellhunter or magiced lineage traits for -1 effective spell level on metamagic. *Curses: +Lame/-Haunted* / *Revelation: Prophetic Armor* 3O. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . With a command word, you can use a wayfinder to shine (as the light spell). No, Wayang Spellhunter is bound by the same FAQ. Brian Abend Puntos 61. Wayang Spellhunter (Flaming Sphere) Revelations: Freezing Spells Misfortune Fortune Snow Sight Ice Armor Feats: Spell Focus (Cold) Greater Spell Focus (Cold) Rime Spell Elemental Spell (Cold) Spontaneous Metafocus, Flaming Sphere Persistent Spell Spontaneous Metafocus, Wall of Fire. Gifted Adept in the same spell is a decent pick, low level it's boosting damage, high level it's boosting your CL checks Vs SR. That’s 6-36 damage (avg 21) vs 25-63 dmg (avg 44 dmg)Optional: metamagic master (wayang spellhunter) with color spray, so you can make the enemies unconscious without changing form and losing the high CA. Or you can use them on 2 different spells. For debuffs your best option is to take magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for frostbite and the rime spell and authoritative spell feats. Normal: When moving at more than half your speed and. Personally, I use it with maximize. I can think of no way that allows you to cast 1st level spells as cantrips. Feat: Opening Volley. The Djezet and wayang combination are both rated 6/5, not necessarily because they are the best, but they are a little hand wavy on how much they count BUT the equipment trick feat clearly states that it is treated as being 1 spell level higher for all purposes, which would include pre-reqs. Level 9– Dragon Disciple Breath WeaponIf you also have the traits wayang spellhunter and magical lineage, both for burning hands, then you can cast an intensified, empowered burning hands using a level 2 spell slot that deals 2+1. Choose: A spell of 3rd level or below. Of course, a GM may rule otherwise, but I wouldn't expect this reading to be accepted at an average table. Otherwise you get silly munchkinism, like claiming that the FAQ restrictions on Magical Lineage don't apply to Wayang Spellhunter, or other such shenanigans regarding one-handed weapons like the Bastard Sword. The the ones that reduce the metamagic costs are Wayang Spellhunter(Metamagic Master on d20pfsrd) and Magical Lineage. Round 2: Cast Touch of Idiocy and move up to enemy. Choosing to be a human rather than an elf satisfies one but not on its own the other - if you have the wayang spellhunter trait you aren't Keleshite, you're from Minata instead. I would think that since Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage provide the exact same benefit, they don't stack. This follows the written developers intention for the Trait system. 120 damage . Starting with Grease adding the Alchemical Power Component Acid as a material component to add 1 point of damage. Mostly, these stories are just fictions of fearful minds, but it's true that wayangs were originally creatures of shadow, straddling the edge between light and darkness. For traits a good choice are the metamagic reducing traits magical lineage/wayang spellhunter, that will reduce the spell level increase when applying metamagic feats to a spell ( a good spell to choose with these is snowball), or basic traits like reactionary (+2 init), or fate's favored, that works nicely with sacred tattoo (an alternative. What you can’t do is the Wayang Spellhunter Empowered Shocking Grasp (as an example). Reply AmeteurOpinions IRON CASTER • Additional comment actions. Shoot spells from range, hit touch ac, get extra damage with your pistol, and be an awesome arcane pirate. (Orc/Draconic) and plops Wayang Spellhunter. at later levels, grab empower spell, varisian tattoo (evocation) intensify spell and flumefire rage. They are extremely gaunt, with pixielike stature and skin the color of. 5x(15d8) (average 153. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Shadowy Dash. You know, I never noticed the level limit on Wayang Spellhunter before! Gray Warden wrote:Stack as much primary casting stat as possible (spells/day). Doing the rest as a Two-Weapon Warrior Fighter or. Additional Traits is a really good feat if you plan it right, letting you pick up Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) at 5th level when you get Fireball while you use your bonus feat to pick up Sickening Spell or Empower Spell. Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter on Frostbite or Shocking Grasp. Especially good if you took either Magical Lineage or Wayang Spell hunter to Fireball. 25 damage, compared to the 57 damage your example averages to. 1. 25 damage. Granted, when you are level 15, you don't need to worry about needing other level one spells, but still limits your flexibility. You could pick up Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter with the Additional Traits feat and retrain the feat whenever you want another spell to benefit from those two traits. I would strongly recommend against any dips as you get so much from levels. Ahora yo creo que Andre generado durante esta actividad. There are a lot of cases where traits probably shouldn't stack (Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage) but that's a GM putting in a limit for the good of the game rather than a rule in the book. Well there are more traits and feats. Wayang Spell Hunter is better than a bonus to UMD. Since no (Wayang) in the name - I would say no. Spell Focus (Necromancy) and the greater version seem good, and let me lean into the flavor a bit to use other curses as well. With Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball), along with spell perfection (Fireball), you can have a Intensified Dazing Persistent Maximized Fireball in a 7th level slot. The treants only took minor damage before GTFOing, the siege trees made like the Chosen Undead and became kindling. +1 keen, spell storing scimitar as your weapon, boosted to +5 by your pool. This allows you to spontaneously cast 1 spell (and you pick Magic Missile) and apply metamagics to it without increasing the cast time by. Magical Knack keeps your spell caster level on par with your HD, and Wayang Spellhunter to keep your. Wayang Spellhunter: effectively the same, and they stack. Traits: Magical knack and adopted (tiefling) -> dark magic affinity or wayang spellhunter if you want to use metamagic feats. At Lvl 13 when that divine boon comes online, you can Evil Eye them a -4 save, Cackle as a move to keep that going, and throw a quickened toxic Scream at them with the nastiest poison you can. If the spell is DC-based or doesn't do damage, you might be better off using the Heighten or Persistent. Cryptoalthough in my experience having wayang spellhunter for a 0 level spell is nice, depending on what metamagic feats you have. you need quicken spell as your level 13 feat so you can use it with your level 15 feat spell perfection. Neither of them is listed as a "trait bonus", so they would work together. Good or Bad Idea? So I started playing TTrpgs with dnd 5e and have recently gotten more into pathfinder 1e, as I enjoy. This is actually an underrated Trait. *Revelation: Eye of the Moon* 5O. RSS FeedSimply install UnityModManager. 120 damage . Another trait that comes to mind is the Wayang Spellhunter from the Dragon Empires Primer which should stack with Magical Lineage as it is a different regional trait as opposed to a magical one. Wayang CR 1/2 Source Bestiary 4 pg. Wayang Spellhunter wrote: You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. I'm curious whether wiser heads than mine think the metamagic reduction effect of Magical Knack or Metamagic Master (A. Magical Lineage and/or Wayang Spellhunter are great traits if you are going the Metamagic shocking grasp route. Of course, a GM may rule otherwise, but I wouldn't expect this reading to be accepted at an average table. Then take widen spell and you can use your 3rd level slots to cast this instead of fireball. With Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage, we can Empower it for free, so now we're talking 55d6+110 (+50%) for a 3rd level spell slot. Of course, there's always the classic Wayang Spellhunter + Magical Lineage for the Arcane Mark cantrip. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. It's possible to reduce the spell-level by 1 using either the Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter trait. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell? In addition, he could Heighten for free and using Wayang and Spellhunter, add Rhime and Intensfy Spell for free as well, while casting out of a 3rd level slot. 135 damage and they have to make 2 reflex saves or be dazed for 3 rounds. You can't retrain Traits, but you can retrain Feats. Feb 12, 2016, 01:02 pm. The two simplest magus builds focus on the shocking grasp spell or the frostbite spell. you have 3 traits not 2. If you're human (two feats), at level 1 you can cast disruptive magic missiles. Technically, they are not the same. People will say that you can use both, but there is language about how traits don't stack, so this is questionable at best. Asking specifically for those using the CotW mod - given the spells and feats that work with spells (Wayang Spellhunter, for example) - what do you guys think would. The entire goal of it is to cast Fireball. But these are both quite fragile arguments. Dragonborn3. Traits are Magical Knack (+2 CL to compensate for monk dip), Metamagic Master/Wayang Spellhunter (Shocking Grasp) and Defensive Strategist if the DM allows drawbacks, which he most likely will. Traits: Magical Lineage (Fireball), Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) Feats: H: Rime Spell 1: Empower Spell 3: Spell Focus (Evocation) 5: Spell Specialization (Fireball) W5: Varisian Tattoo (Evocation) 7: Intensify Spell 9: Greater Spell Focus 11: Greater Spell Specialization W10: Dazing Spell 13: Persistent SpellSign In; Cart . “Those elements of an artist, the bullying and painting these living characters in the wall were right there from the very first day. Wayang Spellhunter-- despite being brought up in the same forum contexts-- was never errataed in the same way, but the effect is almost exactly the same, to the point that the d20pfsrd people added an. Region. James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies Aug 27, 2016, 11:58 am: Vatras wrote: magical lineage and metamagic master you end up with using a slot 2 levels less. Level 1: Get Oracle with Heavens Mistery: Awesome Display revelation, and deaf Curse. Traits: Magical Lineage (Shocking Grasp), Wayang Spellhunter (Shocking Grasp) Archetype: Kensai (select estoc as your chosen weapon) Race: Human Feats: Weapon Versatility (so your estoc can deal slashing damage) and Slashing Grace at 1st level, later take Intensify Spell, Empower Spell, Quicken Spell and finally Spell Perfection. Wayang Spellhunter (-1 metamagic cost) Voidfrost Robe (+1 CL cold spells) Varisian Tatto (+1 CL evocation) for a total CL of 15 with Iceball (Fireball that deals cold damage). 5x1. I'd take Additional Traits around lvl 7-9ish and throw Wayang/Lineage on Touch of Idiocy so you can prepare a couple. Thanks. 2. About the P. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. If you're specialising in one spell there are the metamagic cost reduction traits (wayang spellhunter & magical lineage) but that isn't required. Spell perfection for one free metamagic feat. This follows the written developers intention for the Trait system. 20d6 compared to 8d6. . I think my character is close to be finished. At level 2 you get 2 magic missiles. Requirement (s) Minata. Empowered Fireball as a 3rd level spell, 15d6+30. Good catch. Wayang Spiralling patterns cover this shadowy humanoid’s skin, and its black hair trails away in wisps. com - Forums: Rules Questions: Is there a ruling on Magical. Animal Growth is pretty good if you have an animal companion and the room to maneuver. Orc/Draconic(Red) Sorc 1/Admixture Wizard 6With Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage that'd be a level 3 spell. ago by 111phantom The wayangs are a race of small supernatural humanoids who trace their ancestry to the Plane of Shadows. It should be. Yes, that was awful, Reactionary, where every member of the party were bullied as a child. Wayang CR 1/2 Source Bestiary 4 pg. 5)+4, an average of 77 damage on a failed. 1 level dip for that + Wizard gets 4 more damage. Then use Still Spell + Wayang Spellhunter on your favorite offensive spell. Lesser rod can be used three times a day than you need to prepare ill omen three times. Wayang Spellhunter (d20pfsrd calls it Metamagic Master): As Magical Lineage, but spell must be 3rd level or lower. It's still one of the best strategies when it comes to nova damage. Admixture will allow me to get around fire immune enemies, though it will reduce my damage by 1 per die from the sorcerer bloodline cheese. And you can stack them to drop it even further. I'd like to keep the cold theme of the character intact if at all possible. Scion of Shadows: Some wayangs retain an uncommonly powerful connection to the Plane of Shadow. Fixed it. Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. And with Wayang Spellhunter, that's 3rd in this case. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell?EDIT: If a GM is really into stopping it, they might use the wording of Wayang Spellhunter against it. Looks like the only way is to talk to my player. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. It'll be a little rougher between levels, oh, five and seven, as you have a lot more pull on your level two slots. Rogue Talents: Stalker Talent-> Sniper, +4 undecided. take time to build, but will be very strong at high levels. ; Perception +2 Defense AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 11 (+3 Dex, +1 size) hp 8 (1d6+2)Quite frankly, seeing as Wayang Spellhunter is a functional reprint of Magical Lineage, you shouldn't even be allowed to take both, even if you want to apply them to different spells - they just didn't reprint it because all the traits in the book Wayang Spellhunter is in are regional traits, whereas Magical Lineage is a magic trait. The other FAQ willuwontu provided is questionably applicable. Traits: all traits on pages 8-21 except Chosen Child and Rebel Leader. Wayang Spellhunter says:"When you use the chosen spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. Wayang Spellhunter Source Dragon Empires Primer pg. That said, there are very few builds that are reliant on traits. You can cast the spell Fiery Shuriken as a (Cold) spell, attaching Rime spell to it to cause entangled with no save; the round you cast it, you fire shuriken at a couple targets you want to debuff. Wayang Spellhunter turns into Metamagic Master turns into yes, her teacher in magic loves his metamagic and passed that down to her. Spell penetration is also rather useful depending on what sorts of enemies your GM throws at you. All. You can, in theory, just crank it for healing/damage with Selective Channel, Quick. Wayang Spellhunter -Shocking Grasp You can now apply 2 levels of metamagic to shocking grasp for free. Taking Magical Knack trait will help with the 4 levels lost Wayang Spellhunter trait for meta magic to help boost damage But to be honest I my self would not take the 3 fighter dip Reply reply UnboundUndead • • Edited. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . And against the pure sorc, the wizard has elemental(any) substitution on the fly and possibly a higher caster level for bypassing SR because the wiz has more feats to work with. And that's all you need for some sick fireball damage. When you cast an authoritative spell, choose one of the following activities to prohibit: move closer to you, move away from you, make a melee weapon attack, make a ranged weapon attack, cast an offensive spell, or cast a non-offensive spell. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . This means that the benefit of the trait Magical Lineage can be combined with the benefit of the trait Wayang Spellhunter (i. With wayang spellhunter and magical lineage you can cast an intensified, reach, empowered, maximized mythic force punch as an 8th level spell, 5th with spell perfection. For Enervation, you probably want Extra traits and take either magical lineage or wayang spellhunter or whatsitcalled that reduces the metamagic cost by one on a chosen spell. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell? EDIT: If a GM is really into stopping it, they might use the wording of Wayang Spellhunter against it. Wayang spell hunter + Magical Lineage for a Wizard. Much sooner than level 12. Cold fireball is probably recommended. BadBird. As an example, if you have wayang spellhunter and magical lineage for it, an empowered intensified fireball is a 4th level spell. You want both Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter. For traits, grab magical lineage and wayang spellhunter, both for fireball. Traits: Wayang Spellhunter (burning arc), Magical lineage (enervation) Skills: Knowledge (arcana, dungeoneering, local, nature, planes, religion) +8, Spellcraft +8 Metamagic pool: 4 Cantrips: detect magic, disrupt undead, acid splash Level 1 spells prepared: Color spray, Summon minor monster Battle 1A: a random CR 3 foe: pteranodon. Metamagic Rager. . Wayang Spellhunter reduces the level increase from metamagic of a single spell by one. At 5th level, a metamagic rager can sacrifice additional rounds of bloodrage to apply a metamagic. Take Wayang Spellhunter on this spell and Yuelral's Blessing discovery, and you should be good to go. You are going to want Toppling Spell, Disruptive Spell, Dazing Spell, Heighten Spell and Quicken Spell by level 6. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . this build roasts things, and is a very intuitive pyromancer. 1Magus1 Spell Combat Spell Focus: Evoc, Spell special 2 Magus2 Spellstrike 3 Sorcerer1 Crossblooded Orc/Blue DragonIntensify Spell The advantages of the metamagic feat are spelled out in the Benefits section of the feat, and the increased spell slot level is a disadvantage. The rest are good, true but no serious problem. You probably want to take both magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for your primary blast spell so you can get some free metamagic on it, with empower and (eventually) intensified both being good choices for damage, and rime spell is a nifty crowd control option. Wayang spellhunter is a must, functionally identical to Magical Lineage, free metamagic on Shocking Grasp, Snowball or Frostbite (as appropriate to your build) is far too good to pass up. Toppling spell, Elemental Spell (cold) + Rime Spell, Echoing spell, Quickened spell. Wayang Spell Hunter is better than a bonus to UMD. Aside from focusing on one school, you can focus on one spell, adding metamagic and making it your Specialized Spell if it scales with caster level. If you want something close pickup a staff that has your desired 1st level spell in it and you will be able to cast. Similar situation to all Magus'es getting Wayang Spellhunter. Reply Javaed. And equal is not better. everything from that point onward is open. Orc/Draconic(Red) Sorc 1/Admixture Wizard 6 With Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage that'd be a level 3 spell. Well, as I'm an Eldritch Scion it's a little harder (known spells as a Bard). ) The other traits I chose to make him more versatile outside of combat. That means your Empowered Fireballs (which take up a 3rd level spell slot thanks to Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter) hit for 15d6+30 damage. The alternative bloodline arcana for imperial dragons gives a bonus against shaken, frightened or panicked foes, so I included an Intimidate focus. In a similar vein the MAGICAL LINEAGE or WAYANG SPELLHUNTER background traits are incredibly strong for a Magus, who can use one of these traits to get a level 1 Intensified Shocking Grasp or a level 1 Rime Frostbite (or occasionally a level 1 Toppling Magic Missile). Technically, they are not the same. Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter really make a lot of difference.